Dice Setter Precision Shooter's Newsletter
Welcome back to another edition of the Precision Shooter Newsletter. I've kept this issue short and sweet, after all, spring has sprung and I'm sure y'all have better things to do than sit in front of a computer. The one issue of note is, Stanford Wong's recent comments on dice influencing have caused a bit of a stir in our community. Check out the message board to read the comments on this subject.
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Cautionary Words for the
Field of vision has sometimes wreaked havoc
for me. At a stick 1 position, the presence of the stick person can be a huge distraction,
affecting the visual field in surprising ways that never occur to you at home, even
sometimes actually blocking the target area on the felt, depending on your stance, the
size of the personnel involved, whether they are willing to stand out of the way or not,
whether you lean over the rail or not, etc. I don't lean in, preferring to keep my body
balanced standing straight up, and hence the stick person is often a problem if I want to
shoot from close in.
Well, I would tell him to make the passline bet and odds only. When he has maybe 20 shoots under his belt, then maybe one or two place bets. Probably just one. I can tell you even an experienced guy like myself get flustered when dealing with poor dealers so if he can concentrate only on the passline he will not have dealer distraction. Second, he should have a plan of what set (singular) he is going to use and work that plan. What he does when not shooting is a horse of a different color.
Although there is a lot of information
about starting out. My take is - Risk little until you find your comfort level,
confidence, concentration and are in control. Start with a minimum Pass Line bet and
single odds and no other bets. Evaluate and assess your casino throwing performance. Use
your back rail rack, track your tossed numbers using chips. Don't let this process
Go easy until you know yourself and your playing field.
Following up on Irish's lead post above re:
setting the dice with alacrity:
One of the worst things I've seen in brand
new precision shooters is overbetting their bankroll and their skill. For newbie practice,
a pass line bet is sufficient and if you're really conservative, the old
"doey-don't" will keep you covered even more.
Well, it looks like we have a theme going
here so let me just pile on. First, on betting. Use the "personal trainer"
rules. Start low and go slow. If you're brand new to this stuff there is absolutely
nothing wrong with playing a pass line bet and (initially at least) not taking odds on
that bet. Likewise, there is nothing that says you have to place the six and eight right
off the bat. You might want to get a couple of tosses behind you before you go into the
box numbers. And when you do decide to move into the place numbers there is absolutely
nothing wrong with using a regression strategy that includes a place-to-come option like
my Heat Seeker. Let's take a look at some options.
It appears that the thread here is telling
the novice to take it slow and learn to throw in the real world. I would even go so far as
to tell the novice to take 4 or 5 units with the express intent of "investing"
them in this real world workshop. In other words, he is paying rent in the form of 4 or 5
units on this real world table with real world dealers and real world pit people. If he
loses these units, fine, it's an investment in developing his skills as a dice thrower. If
he breaks even, that is as good as a win in this situation because he got all this great
real world practice and it didn't cost him anything and if he actually wins money, then
this is as good as it gets. Keep on doing what you've been doing.
Patience. Give yourself a chance
2: Learning the theory of dice influencing
Im not sure when it happened really. One day I decided I needed to better understand the game of craps if I was going to keep playing it.
Just like about 80% of the people who play the game, I had been playing without really understanding the concepts. About the only thing I knew about the game, was what I had learned from playing some casino software simulation on my home computer. Id originally bought the software to practice counting cards for blackjack. The software had several casino games like slots, roulette, and poker. And it had a craps game. The craps simulation is fun. It comes with a Hint mode that would recommend what bet to make. I bet you cant guess what the hint always was? Either bet the PL or DP and two come bets or two DC. Funny thing was that even in the sim, using its hints; Id have more losing sessions then winning ones. After playing around with the sim for a bit it seemed like the best strategy was to bet a DP and follow that with a come bet or two. In fact the very first time I played the game of craps in a casino, thats how I played. It was amazing how well that strategy worked. I seemed to toss a lot of point then seven-out, giving me a double winner of the DP and the come. (Just shows, any strategy can work some of the time).
Anyways, at some point I decided it was time to get a better handle on this game, so I did what many people do when they want to get information on something; I headed off to my local library. I live in a small town and our library carries a total of about 15 books. You usually have to knock on your neighbors door if you want to check out one of them. Just kidding, but it is a small library and they didnt have any books on the game of craps.
Next, check out the internet bookstores and see what there is to be found. Searched on craps and got the usual listing of books; Be a craps master in 10 days, Joe's never fail craps strategies, Craps for ding-dongs, etc. etc. As I perused the list, trying to decide which of the many books might actually have some meaningful information, a couple of book titles jumped out at me. The first was How to control the dice, the second was Dice Control for Casino Craps. Im thinking, This is interesting. Id stumbled across some books that were written about ways to throw the dice to ones advantage. This was amazing. Here were books on a subject that I was playing with in my head and didnt even know that there was already a language and school of thought, let alone publications.
Well, I forgot all about the reason I was looking for a craps book (to learn the game. BIG mistake, Ill discuss that mistake later on) and started reading the information on these books. Time for a choice. Which book should I get? In the end I bought Sharpshooters book. The title Gambling Disciples of God in Yuri's book, just seemed a little too weird for me. (I did end up getting Yuris book later on, but thats another story).
When SSs book arrived I was all over it. I think I read the entire book in one evening. The stuff written there just seemed to make sense. Set the dice a certain way, grip them a certain way, toss them a certain way, and achieve a certain result. Sounds simple, sounds like it ought to work.
Some folks simply cant see how this could possible be done and dont give Dice Influencing a second thought. Others think that maybe it can work and maybe theyll give it a try (the what can it hurt group). I suppose I had a pre-disposition to believe in the concept of Dice Influencing from the get-go. From the moment I read SharpShooters book, I was hooked and jumped into the whole dice influencing research phase with both feet. Oh, its not like I went out and bought a real full scale craps table to practice on in my living room (I wish). Im much too cheap to do that. Heck, I couldnt even bring myself to spring for both dice control books to start. Its not that I cant afford them both, like I said, Im just too cheap to lay out serious money until Ive done my research and as they say drunk the Kool-aid.
After reading through the book, I realized Im going to have to practice a bit to see if I can really influence the dice. Im gonna need some equipment; some dice. Where do you get dice? Casino Dice? The internet of course. You can find anything and everything on the www. Well you can find anything, but everything has a price. The cheap side of me just wont let me spring for the price of a stick of dice. So, wheres the next place to look? Why not check the worlds largest flea-market. I point my browser over to EBay and search for casino dice. After some searching and choosing through the many pages of the query results, I pick up 3 pairs of used Las Vegas Hard Rock Casino dice, each pair in a different color. Very cool. (I still have these dice and carry em around as a good luck charm). Now, remember, Im new to all this stuff. I still havent found Dicesetter.com or AxisPowerCraps or any other craps boards. Im unaware that used casino dice arent the best selection for my Dice Influence practice. Im just excited to give this a trial with the best tools I have available.
Ive read the book, Ive got the basic idea behind Dice Influencing; the purpose of the axial sets, the idea of the on-axis toss, use of proper grip, hitting the proper landing zone. Now, Ive got some dice. The only thing left is to find somewhere to toss the dice.
There are plans for a practice table in the book, but I dont think I want or need to go to that much effort at this point. For now I figure any ole box will do. I searched around the garage and basement a bit and found the box my printer came in, an old cardboard box. The box is about 2 feet wide and about a foot deep. I took and cut off one of the wide sides and lay the box down on the remaining wide side. The bottom of the box becomes my back wall. The remaining wide side becomes my table and the short sides perform as the side walls. About a simple as you can get.
Cool, I have some dice, I have a box. Lets get tossin and thats just what I did for about 3 nights. I quickly discovered two things about using a cardboard box as a practice table. First, the dice tend to slide, not roll, when they hit and second the dice edges where digging the hell out of the cardboard. Hmm, cardboard, not such a good idea. Time to upgrade this toss box.
Look back to the opening sentence. The plan had started out as learning the game of craps. Id forgotten all about that. I was now going to learn the game of Dice Influencing.
Notice that I word this like there are two separate games, a game of craps and a game of Dice Influencing. I believe that they are separate activities. Yes, they directly influence and impact each other. You need to have knowledge and skill in both to make this work. But, it is easy to get caught up with one without heed to the other. I focused on learning one without the other to my detriment. But thats another story.
In the next article Ill discuss how my practice rig evolved and how I began tracking my rolls.
What have I learned since those early beginnings? What advice would I give to someone just starting? If I could go back in time, with what I know now, and do things differently to get the most effect, here is the advice I would give myself:
~ Buy Heavys Axis Power Craps manual first. Of all the Dice Influence manuals Ive read, his is the easiest to read and does the best at explaining the primary points. If after youve read that, you want the others, fine, get them. They do add some points and compliment the information. (I personally prefer Yuris to Sharpshooter's)
~ Buy your dice from the Dice Coach. His sticks of 6 die is the best deal on new dice. Youre going to need those new dice for truer results and you will go though all 3 pairs in short order. I would recommend a stick of red and a stick of green to give you six pairs and allow you to mix colors for tracking purposes.
~ Build a simple box to start with (out of wood, not cardboard). It is worth the effort and even if you are not that handy with the tools, it can be a simple process with the major cuts done at your local hardware store (i.e. Lowes, Home Depot, etc)
Until next time, keep your sixes crossed and your rack full.
(Part III will appear in the next Precision Shooter Newsletter)
Heavy and the Dice Coach's June Reunion Craps Clinic - June 11 - 13, Las Vegas
Dice Coach and Michael Vernon - Dice Busters! - July 3 - 4, Las Vegas
Heavy's Motorcity Craps Clinic - August 20 - 22nd, Detroit
Keep an eye out for the official
announcement for the Las Vegas Crapsfest! - October 2004
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