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Topic: Precision shooting for profit?
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Date: 11/7/2001 7:58:26 AM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
smoove j
I have a general question that's been bugging me after reading
through all the intelligent articles on this site.
If we can actually turn craps into a positive expectation game while we're shooting, why
does everyone still seem to mention betting (albeit conservatively) on the random rollers?
Doesn't this needlessly expose our profits to a negative expectation game?
Other than distracting heat, I can't think of a reason to risk it. Am I missing something
here?
--smoove j
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Date: 11/7/2001 10:06:57 AM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
Mad Professor
Hi Smoove J,
You are correct.
Under ideal circumstances, I would be the solo player at every table that I walk up to.
Unfortunately real-world situations make that difficult.
Most people don't have the patience to suspend their betting until it is their turn with
the dice. What's worse, is that if they try that for a few rounds of play, and their own
shooting doesn't produce immediate and tangible profits, then the patience factor almost
always evaporates.
There are a few betting methods that will keep you in the game, while taking advantage of
an occasional random-rollers lucky hand without exposing your bankroll to ruin.
In the alternative, you can check out the action at a variety of "live" tables,
and pick one where the dice are nearing your shooting position. After your turn, you can
look for greener felt-pastures at another table.
If you read "And the Survey Says..." on my page, you will see how you can shop
for a table that closely fits your individual needs.
Good Luck & Good Skill at the Tables.
MP
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Date: 11/7/2001 10:31:51 AM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
BBMW
On my last trip to Vegas, I didn't find it to hard to get an
empty table, and it's probably gotten easier since then. Alot of the second tier and/or
locals casions are pretty dead during the day midweek. There were a number of occasions
where I could walk up to an empty table and roll for a while (whether or not I made my
points).
However, I couldn't get it working, and gave up after a while.
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Date: 11/7/2001 12:19:05 PM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
biglou
Slogan: see you in pair-a-dice!
While waiting for the dice to come around to me,I become a
"don't player;unless there is a precision shooter.
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Date: 11/7/2001 1:50:22 PM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
heavy
Slogan: Don't Feed the Chickens
Smart thinking, Biglou.
Funny how your philosophy changes as your skills improve - seeking out opportunities to
start up an empty table - stepping up to the table fully expecting to throw twenty or
thirty numbers before sevening out - and adopting an extremely conservative betting
philosophy when other players join the game.
The yoyo effect of losing while waiting for the dice to return to you gets old real quick.
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Date: 11/7/2001 8:33:47 PM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
SHOOTER57
Except for the guys who 7out in 6 rolls or less (may their
tribe increase) many shooters start to show a trend if they throw 12 or more times. This can
be any thing from horn numbers to field to inside numbers. I go up on them for one bet per
point and wait for my turn or a return to the DP on the next shooter. GOOD LUCK SHOOTER
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Date: 11/8/2001 8:04:05 AM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
smoove j
Shooter57,
I'm curious why you chose 12 hands (rolls?) as your mark for identifying signature
numbers. Do you only use this on shooters that appear to have precision skills, or anyone
with a SRR larger than 6?
Also, I tend to agree with everyone else about betting the darkside. It has the advantage
of a lower house advantage, but can have the drawback of making you look like a conceited
ass when you bet against everyone and then spread it all around when you get the dice.
May you 7's be few and far between,
--smoove j
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Date: 11/8/2001 3:28:46 PM (Pacific USA) |
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Author:
SHOOTER57
No only ones who precision shoot. If you are winning what the
hell difference does it matter what you look like? Play your game ignore the rest. GOOD LUCK
SHOOTER
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